"Crosby does what everyone else can do, only better. Ovechkin does what no one can manage."
By Mike Ulmer, Toronto Maple Leafs commentator, May 15, 2009 "Who Do You Choose? Sid Or Ovie?":
The difference between the two is that Sidney Crosby’s main influence was Wayne Gretzky. I think Ovechkin’s is Rasputin.
Ovechkin is mercurial, emotional. He brandishes the hockey player’s badge of honour, a missing front tooth, like a ceremonial mace. We were talking in his first year and he was struggling to find a word in English. He laid his left fingers across his right. Try it. The word he was looking for? Prison. That, friends, is an expansive thinker.
Ovechkin relentlessly seeks out contact. He redefines how a hockey player can score. His release is another man’s twitch. The Hockey News found when you work league-wide goals per game into the equation, Ovechkin has been as prolific a goalscorer in his first four years as Wayne Gretzky was in his. Bill Torrey, longtime GM of the New York Islanders contends that for much of a game, players simply don’t think about scoring. The real goal scorers prowl about the game looking for just those moments. Mike Bossy, Torrey said, was such a player. Ovechkin is another.
Ovechkin is an artist powered by his own passion to score. His celebrations, his ill-conceived ‘hot stick’dance after he scored his 50th and the bar tab that is making the internet rounds, are built to scale.
Crosby is the third generation superstar. The elements Gordie Howe brought from Floral, Saskatchewan, decency, humility, were picked up by Gretzky in Brantford and, a generation later, Crosby in Cole Harbor.
The exotic defines Ovechkin. Its absence is what makes Crosby Crosby. For all his skills - he is a powerful skater who is profoundly difficult to knock off the puck – he is positionally much less reckless and therefore far more sound than Ovechkin. Crosby does what everyone else can do, only better. Ovechkin does what no one can manage. That’s the difference.
Crosby scored truly pathetic goals vs Capitals. Would there be a better defensemen like what Red Wings have, or a meaner, more physical, Pronger type, would it be a goalie who "eats" rebounds, Crosby would score two goals at most. Crosby is quick, but he doesn't have either a good slapshot or a good wrist shot, even Malkin, who kisses Crosby's ass, admits it. So yeah, he used his quickness, no question, but like Darren Elliot said, "he played like a grinder, the most gifted grinder".
And this is what Crosby is, a grinder.
The National Post, May 11, 2009:
"[What's remarkable about Russians is] just the overall skill level that they have," said Capitals defenceman Mike Green, a Calgary native and the game's premier offensive defenceman, earlier in this series. "Their skill, and their sight, and their vision on the ice is incredible, and as a Canadian guy - we're not taught skill. We're taught dump-and-chase-and-hit, and battle until you score."
That has summed up much of Crosby's work in this series. Saturday night, he did produce a sweeping rush to the net in the first frantic seconds of overtime, but failed to finish. Otherwise he has been, as ex-player and analyst Darren Elliot admiringly described Crosby to espn.com's Scott Burnside before this series, "the most gifted grinder in the game."
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19 comments:
Sounds like the words of bitter caps fans.
"Steckel and his grinding linemates where three of the few players who went to the net against Marc-Andre Fleury(notes). Their hard work resulted in good chances and, in some cases, key goals.
Boudreau said that's what that line is expected to do. The trick is attempting to get the Capitals' top six forwards in any given game to do the same, especially in the postseason.
"Sometimes you try and change people. And sometimes they don't want to change," he said.
"Sometimes you've got guys that you know are going to play a little on the perimeter. And you can tell them 'till the cows come home [to go to the net] and it doesn't work. But they've got such great strengths in other places. What do you do?"
What you do is watch Sidney Crosby become Dave Andreychuk for seven games, scoring goal after goal on Varlamov's welcome mat. It was an underrated facet of this game, it isn't now; and his grit in going to the net was an inspiration for the Penguins. "
Yeah, when you don't know anything about hockey, like the guy who writes this blog, you need to shut up.
Sounds like Canadians don't like Crosby as much as Ovechkin.
Hey, you know a lot about hockey? Why don't you start your own blog and write your witty thoughts there? I doubt anybody will read it though.
@Habs Killer
Sounds like the inflated ego of a Pens fan.
@ Habs Killer
Oh Burnnn!!
@ Anonymous dude above and Oviifanforlyfe.
I'm actually Bruins fans, but I enjoyed the Caps/Pens series. This series made me more a pens fan though, because of Ovie's douchie antics.
How about Ovie singing "Hey, You suck!" in game 2, when the game was clearly out of reach for the penguins.
Or Ovie giving the Pittsburgh crowd the "shhhhhhhhh" after the win in game 6, only to get absolutely OWNED at home in game 7.
Ovie might be a great player, but I can't stand guys who act like cocky pricks when they win, and whiny douchebags when they lose.
Keep telling yourselves that Crosby is nothing more than a glorified grinder, meanwhile Bruce Boudreau said that he wishes that his top six forwards would have crashed the net and backchecked better.
If the goals that Crosby scored were that easy to do, then why didn't Caps players OWN the penguins? I mean, his goals were "pathetic", yet they still let him do them.
Where was Semin though? (Is North American playoff hockey to rough for him? Was he afraid to break a nail?)
Fact is that Ovechkin was nullified by Crosby, and the rest of the caps were absolutely owned by the rest of the penguins. (They got outshot and outchanced in every game).
It was reminiscent of the first round against the Rangers, where the rangers really had no business being on the ice with the caps, even though they managed to win 3 games. Only this time, it was the caps who got dominated.
You don't like Ovie? Fine, but you are one of the few. The players choose him as the best, Chara likes him, Savard likes him, Thomas likes him, Canadians like him. So you are a one odd Bruins fan, just give us analysis how your team sucked, losing to Canes. As of Crosby, you actually agreed with me that he IS a glorified grinder and thank you for that. As of 'shhhh', Talbot did it to Flyers, if you saw the first round, singing with the crowd doesn't qualify you as cocky.
Most people love Ovie, it's true. After all, he has the second top selling jersey, behind Crosby.
I love the contradiction of calling Crosby a grinder though.
Let's see the definition of Hockey Grinder:
"In ice hockey, a grinder is a player who is known for his or her toughness and hard work, as opposed to a player with crowd-pleasing puck handling skills or other flashy abilities. Generally, due to their lack of finesse, grinders do not earn many goals or assists. Their role is usually limited to wearing the opposing team's players down (thus, grinding), by checking hard and playing a physical game in order to gain momentum for the team. They often engage in fights as well."
I don't know, that doesn't really sound like a definition of Crosby's game to me.
If you mean that he is a grinder because of his puck control skills along the boards and around the net, well I see where you could be fooled.
The Bruins got owned by a team that would have easily destroyed the Caps' weak defense. I guess I have one more reason to root for the Penguins now.
What I dont get is why your posting comments on an Ovi FAN blog site if you don't like him? seriously, it says it at the top: A FAN site dedicated to Alexander Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals.
If you dont like Ovi and what you call his "cocky" ways dont look at this site. Thanks.
@Habs Killer
What is wrong with Ovie singing along with fans to a song playing in the arena?
As for shushing the Pitts fans (and the woman on a vicious tirade), even one of the Pittsburgh players said the best sound is a quiet Mellon arena.
Ovie vs Crosby? They canceled each other out, but as a team the Penguins outplayed the Capitals.
As for Ovie whining about a loss, I've never heard him do that. He doesn't hesitate to give credit where it is due (his team and other teams) and he acknowleges when he plays badly. Being shellshocked over a loss and trying to figure out where things went wrong are not whining.
Regarding Crosby, most of us who are his detractors freely acknowledge and respect his hockey skills. However, we do not like how often he talks to refs over almost everything that happens on the ice, nor do we like how tightly scripted he is. Should a 21-year old be that boring? I sometimes feel sorry for him.
If you don't like Ovie, fine, but have more concrete reasons.
Aside from the Crosby bashing, this blog is pretty good, which is why I check it out.
Anyway, Nicklas Backstrom (caps) seems to think that Crosby is the best player in the world. I don't know how much value his opinion has but whatever.
"..."Bäckis" also praises Sidney Crosby.
Backie: Playing like he did against us now, he's the best player.
Reporter: The best you've met?
Backie: Yeah, Ovechkin is awesome from the red line and forward, but Crosby's awesome all over the rink. We knew how dangerous he is in front of the net, but we couldn't solve him. Maybe it looks like he's lucky alot, but it's about being in the right place you know, and he almost always is."
@ Anonymous above.
Come on dude. When you lose and come out saying that it's a joke that your team had more penalities than the other team, you're whining.
When after a loss, you refuse to talk about anything game related, it makes you look like a big baby.
Mike Ribeiro got some pretty bad backlash when he "shushed" the L.A crowd after his shootout goal, so why shouldn't Ovie get some too?
Chanting that the other team sucks along with the crowd is ok, but when your team gets outshot every game, it's kind of ironic.
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@ Habs Killer
When penalties are 2 to 1 during the playoff series but neck in neck during the season it is a joke.
As for Backstrom's statements, Crosby is a generalist - broader role and skill sets on the ice - whereas Ovie is a specialist - sniper with some defensive capabilities. It will be interesting to see if Ovechkin broadens his skills as his career progresses and the Capitals mature. I think he has the ability to take on more on ice roles, but whether he does remains to be seen.
@ Anonymous poster that said:
"When penalties are 2 to 1 during the playoff series but neck in neck during the season it is a joke."
What you fail to understand is that the Penguins controlled the puck WAY more than the Caps when it was 5 0n 5. When you don't have possession of the puck, that is when you take most penalties.
If there's one thing that the series vs the Rangers showed us, it was that the Capitals had issues against a team that cycled deep in their zone. The problem with the Rangers is that they didn't have good enough players to finish, whereas the Pens had. That's also why the Pens scored so many close range goals.
Bruce Boudreau is to blame for the loss. Instead of trying to come up with a plan to stop the pens' onslaught, he seemed to be content to play a "rope-a-dope" style of play, in order to counter.
When, before game 7, Boudreau said: "We expect them to come out strong, and if we can weather that storm without damage, I'm confident that we'll be able to get them in the second and third".
That strategy would have been good, if he had a solid defensive plan, or a good D. But he was only relying on Varly stopping everything.
@Habs Killer
I don't fail to understand puck possession as a factor in penalty allotment. (Or delay of game calls) Factoring in those calls still leaves a lop-sided view of what penalties were called, when, and on what team.
In Game 7 Pitt had NO penalties. Yeah, right. Pull the other one refs! There were at lease two that should have been called. Even chior boys get dirty.
In the future, don't make sweeping statements about the "understanding" of someone you don't know.
Oh that quote made me smile.
I love you guys fighting it's so pointless :'D
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